Toronto, Ontario, Canada

                                                                                    June 2008



The year 2007 passed without a call to duty – jury duty, that is. As we say in the navy, I was ‘ready, aye, ready’, and even able, but apparently not needed  After having been struck off the rolls  for 2008, I’m free as a bird this year. As the Maple Leafs say, maybe next year. I’ve seen the play ‘Twelve Angry Men’, so I know all about jury duty.


I was heartened by the number of readers who took the time to send information this year. If all of your contributions are not included, it’s because I ran out of space, or more accurately, out of weight: If I add one more page to the newsletter, the postage costs almost double. For practical purposes, I try to stay just below what I have found to be the optimum level.  As an aside, many more readers are using e-mail, and a few more are using long-distance telephones. Even hand-written or typed regular mail has increased. 


My thanks to you who sent in cheques or gave me cash. Financial contributions are always very welcome, though funds are not a significant problem if I keep the letter lean.


The last few months have been relatively quiet for this Toronto couple.  Although Deb had two small accidents that gave her a broken foot and later a sprained ankle, she remained mobile throughout, even using public transit without much difficulty. She noted that a walking cast, together with a cane, usually meant a seat for her.  Even the record breaking snow falls didn’t keep Deb indoors.


Other family occasions saw our grandson graduating from high school in Ottawa, with plans to go on to university there. His younger sister, Melanie Leah, was in her first high school musical, ‘Chicago.’ Further afield within the family, my grand nephew and grand nieces in the Halifax  area are winning kudos for their contribution to dance and theatre.  In Canada, ‘Cruddas’ is not a name commonly associated with the arts, but is becoming so in the Halifax area.  In my one-and-only part with the old Shearwater Players, I was found to lacking acting skills. Alas, I was fired by telephone.


You can reach me through any of the addresses below, unchanged since the last letter.



                                                E. Cruddas and D.L.Davis

                                                10 Kenneth Ave, apt 1804

                                                Toronto ON M2N 6K6, Canada

                                                Tel. 416.224.5477

                                                E-mail –


The deadline for next year’s letter is 31 May 2009.




Mel Babcooke sent greetings from Alabama, where he has lived for many years, now in retirement.


‘I play golf almost every day, but my game has not improved a great deal. I looked in my log book a while back, and I have about 300 deck landings. It seemed like a thousand a few years ago. I wonder what happened to some of the guys I used to fly with. I just rarely think of the old days. I worked for a company here for many years, and retired at 62. Now it is golf all the time. Best wishes to all the guys.’


Check the entry under Gordon Bonnel, Mel. A trip to Las Vegas might be worthwhile. Or even to Mainland British Columbia during the CNAG 2008 reunion.


Paul Baiden quoted a website called ‘’ that described the Royal Australian Air Force’s use of the P-3 Orions, similar to our own patrol aircraft. The RAAF maritime patrol aircraft ‘protect coalition road convoys in Iraq from homemade bombs, the biggest killer of troops. The RAAF P-3 Orions which they fly ahead of the coalition, have already picked up several of the so-called “improvised explosive devices.’ In addition, ‘they watch over two offshore oil platforms through which $136.8 MILLION of Iraq oil exports flow each day. That covers about 85% of Iraq’s Gross Domestic Product.’ A spokesman for the RAAF said that ‘the two Australian aircraft now spent 60% of their missions over Iraq, where they escorted coalition convoys or searched for militants launching rockets or mortars.’


The role for the RAAF was kept secret until June 2007, when the information was released to the public. Thanks for the info, Paul.


This year, knee surgery brought Bob Bissell  back to the UK after he had spent several months in South Africa with his wife, Joan. They attended the 2007 CNAG Reunion in Halifax, and spent several weeks in Canada before heading south to Joan’s homeland. Bob sent the following insights into the current status of the Royal Navy, having noted my concern about,


‘… the decline of the RN. It is true that total numbers are only 40,000 including Royal Marines and Fleet Air Arm, but that’s twice what we had when I joined the RCN. They still do get around and not much time ashore. HMS “Invincible” just sailed with a battle group for a seven-month deployment in the Indian Ocean. Important to keep the Indian Navy worked up. She will also have frigates from the USN and Spanish navy joining her. A type 42 is always assigned to work with one of the USN carrier attack forces. Out in the Caribbean they have always tried to keep a guard ship on station, but this year are reduced to two Royal Fleet Auxiliary, but they have RN and FAA attachments on board and already had made a good drug haul from Venezuelan fishing boats. A USCG officer is always carried to make the official arrest. Then there are the routine jobs, surveying for the chart depot, HMS “Endurance” in Antarctica supporting a UK scientific survey. A new purpose-built patrol ship in the Falkland islands. The mine countermeasures squadron is working with NATO.


‘All the new type 45s have been launched, “Daring” class and the first one on trials has surpassed all expectations. The new fleet submarine A class, all the old A-class names that we knew in the fourth sub squadron, has been launched and it is huge. Meanwhile the new carriers are being developed to use the new joint fighter F-53. On “Illustrious’s” last deployment she worked up with the USN off Norfolk using USMC air group on board to give them strike-from-sea experience, which is the new theme for all ops. Back in home waters “Ark Royal” and her group is  the ready strike force. The Merlins, which we should have, seem to be a big success and as the saying goes, nothing on sea or land outruns a Merlin. Most of the Sea Kings have been converted to work with the marines on their two carriers, “Albion” and “Bulwark”, again two old names from our days at sea. The Naval Strike Force is actually working in Afghanistan. These are really air force Harriers as all the Sea Harriers have been retired. So this squadron is made up of air force and naval pilots and now all under the command of the navy. Now the Second Sea Lord has responsibility for the FAA. Sitting here so close to Portsmouth, I can be only an observer, but it seems that the navy is making the best of what it has. Even my old ship, which I used for my week-end sailors, HMS “Example”, is now on patrol off the air base in Cyprus. The navy is now small enough to be very personable. The last First Sea Lord, Admiral West, used to get around everywhere. I even met him in Antigua at the TOT club. The present Sea Lord was here the other day in “Excellent” as Pompey is getting the new type 42 mid-life refit, HMS “York”, the last one having sailed from Rosyth.  They rely a lot on the old-boy net for recruiting, and the RM in particular have sessions with ex-Marines to pass on the vibe. So the RN is not dead in the water yet, but as always could be better as in Canada if only the government would loosen the purse strings.’


Good insights, Bob


Lieutenant-Commander Gordon Bonnel, USN [retired], leads an organization called ‘Real Aviators Flew Stoofs’ [RAFS], which tries to keep together those aviators who flew variants of the S2F Tracker, including the CS2F. Many of you may already have joined the RAFS, which holds occasional get-togethers, the next being slated for Las Vegas, Nevada. Those who want to join can contact Gord at the address in the Annex,  while some of you who are members already might want to update your addresses, or e-mail addresses. Gord would appreciate hearing from any of you. Gord does NOT use the word ‘aviator’ in the strict USN context, i.e. ‘pilot’, but includes other airmen who may have worked in or on Tracker aircraft.


A father is talking to his young son. ‘Son, someday you will make a girl very happy for a short period of time. Then she’ll leave you and be with a new man ten times better than you could ever hope to be. These men are called pilots.’ [This came as an email from a former RCAF/CF officer in the medical branch, Colonel [MAO] Roger Cunningham.]


Bob Bovill e-mailed from Cornwall, England, saying that he was in touch,


            ‘… albeit  at irregular intervals, with Paddy O’Connell, Roger Fink, Phil        Ganci, and Robbie Hughes at your end of the world, with Bruce Vibert here,            and with my old OM, Ken Bullock, in Australia. Do please remember me to           Harry Dubinsky, Jack Cairney. Ben Oxholm, and Dave Tate. We had some        good times in “Maggie”, heavy sea an’ all.’


He also mourned the passings of so many good friends: Irv Bowman, Fred Bradley, Bob Cocks, Peter Arnoldi, Hal Fearon, and Bill Munro. In good news, Bob’s wife has recovered from a very long battle with cancer, a recovery that Bob attributes to ‘the superb team at our hospital in Plymouth.’ Bob sent some great photos that I will place in my photo album, which I carry to many aviation reunions.


Lawyer Dave Bright continues to be noticed in the Halifax press. Last fall he defended  a case involving a civilian construction manager in HMC Dockyard who charged personal items to his DND credit card. The manager’s estranged wife informed on him. [From an article by Brian Hayes in the Halifax Chronicle-Herald, 10 November 2007.]


Several years ago this newsletter had news about Paul Brunelle and his work with Dalhousie University in the field of cacti. At 89, Paul is still working in his ‘nice little shop’ where he makes miniatures, a far cry from much earlier projects including rebuilding a two-horse sickle-bar mover for the Cole Harbour  Heritage Museum, and a part for the Shearwater Aviation Museum’s Firefly. As a child, Paul had lived in Toronto at the corner of Indian Road Crescent and Kenneth Avenue, so he was intrigued by my Kenneth-Avenue address. My Kenneth Ave is one of two among the many duplicates [and one triplicate] that still have not been resolved after the final amalgamation of the city. His old home is near High Park, whereas my current address is in Willowdale or North York. It was probably farmland in York County in 1931.


Glenn Brown wrote from Kingston, Ontario that


            ‘I very much miss Glen [Sid] Potter, who spent the last few years back in his   home town. In 1958, Glen and I arrived in Shearwater after completing flight       training and joined 880. On arrival we discovered that the squadron was on             summer leave and we were placed under the stewardship of one of the few pilots           not on leave – Richard Bedford [Dick] Davis. Dick decided that having two new       pilots named Glen and Glenn, who sort of looked alike, would be too confusing             for the rest of the squadron when they returned from leave, and so he arbitrarily             decided that Glenn would become Sidney and Glen would become Charlie. That           is how we were introduced to the entire squadron.’


At the CNAG Reunion last fall, Ken Brown shared a table with Bob and Joan Bissell, Fred Hawrysh, Marsh Dempster, George and Meryl Pumple, Ray Kneebone, Deborah Davis and myself. Fred, Bob, and Ken had served together for midshipmen’s training and Observer Training. Fred retired in Ottawa in the1980s, served in the Public Service of Canada, later moved to Victoria still as a federal public servant, and now has retired to Kelowna, BC. Ken sent along an article written by Lorna Innes entitled ‘A century of accidental airstrips’ for the Sunday June 24, 2007, edition of The NovaScotian newspaper. It covered aviation in the current Atlantic Provinces from 1909 and the flight of the Silver Dart, through the USN’s transatlantic flight in May 1919, and including historic flights by Alcock and Brown, Byrd, Lindbergh, and Beryl Markham. The article would be fine reading for aviation enthusiasts in the Atlantic Provinces.


Corinne Burns forwarded an e-mail that she had earlier sent to Jerry Watson. Corinne had taken the BC Ferry from Tsawassen to Victoria to see the Titanic display in the Royal Museum and the annual naval air BBQ.


‘I queued with hundreds of others for tickets for the 45-minute Titanic film…Each person is given a name and ticket with passenger’s name. You find out at the end of tour whether or not you survived. When I saw that I was in Third Class, I knew I didn’t. I was an 18-year-old Irish girl whose aunt in New York had purchased a ticket.


Victoria harbour – cruise ships, planes landing, beautiful view. Jackie Gibbs came for cocktails …[at the] Ardmore Golf and Country Club, about 50 attended the bash – and the steaks, salmon, etc were great. As they were the several years that the Pages held it. Those attending: the Oxholms, Bartletts, … Bob Welland, Shel and Barb Rowell, Shirley Ross, Peg Buchanan, Bill Black, Hazel Bowman, Stan Brygadier, the Cairneys, Ted Davis, Pop Fotheringham, Paula Francis, Joan Hewer, Jean [Pumple] Howe, Jake Kennedy, Joe Sosnkowski, Mary Laurie, MacGregor MacIntosh, Bob and Dorothy MacLean, Cam Maxwell, Mike and Sheila Page, Neil and Nona Robertson, Stirling Ross, and others.’


From ‘The Book of Senior Moments’ by Shelley Klein apropos the winter of 2008. ‘I shall not die of cold. I shall die of having lived.’ Willa Cather.


Roy Clarke, a member of the Fleet Air Arm Officers Association, was a member of the 70th FAA Observers course in Trinidad in 1944. The course included nine RCN officers, from ‘mostly small ships.’ He did not have any of their names, but was interested in finding out who they were, and where they are now.  Anyone with further information could contact me, or Roy at his UK address below.


            R T J Clarke

            Goultrop, Beech Grove

            Amersham, Bucks HP7 OAZ UK

            Tel/FAX  +44[0]1494 433303

            E-mail –


[This was in the 2007 newsletter, but drew no replies. I’ve posted it again, abbreviated, in hopes that someone remembered but didn’t reply.]


Don Crowe wrote from Surrey BC where he now lives, after a move a few years back. He said,


            ‘…I’ve had to sell the Fury. One more loss of oil pressure and that was it. It’s far          too expensive, and there is really no one with enough knowledge to do a good job on the engine. The one thing I can’t complain about is that each time I lost oil            pressure, that’s a total of three times, I was close to an airport. The last time it   happened I had it home from CA for only a short time and it failed in the circuit at           Boundary Bay. No more than two hours since I’d brought it home over a lot of         mountains and over the og between Townsend and Boundary Bay.’


Don’s current address is in the Annex.


After reading last year the tale of Jake Kennedy stopping the Gunroom fan by literally using his head, Frank Dowdall wrote,


 ‘I was an Electrician’s Mate onboard Maggie. One of our annoying tasks was constantly being called back to the Wardroom to repair the 33-inch ceiling fans. We assumed that they were just a poor the secret is out. I trust that Jake fully recovered and did not apply for a disability pension due to injuries received on duty.’


I can’t comment on the ‘fully recovered’ question, but in a somewhat similar situation one naval airman did get a pension after his CO admitted that he had ordered him to ‘do the deed’. That order meant that he was on duty.


Harry Dubinsky wrote from BC about a visit by,


‘the world’s largest helicopter, which happened to be on the tarmac in Dease Lake, BC, last week [June 2007, - ed.] It is used for taking mining equipment and cargo out to a new mine called Galore Creek. It is owned by a Russian company. It is called the Utsky. The chopper couldn’t land at the air strip at Bob Quinn Lake because it wasn’t a paved area, so it had to land at Dease Lake until the landing site north of Bob Quinn could be inspected. Apparently, this chopper’s wash will pick up and fling rocks up to 12 inches in diameter around like leaves. Stats, supposedly – Russian crew of six, two pilots, one navigator, two mechanics, one cargo person. You can put one dump truck, one SUV in it, or a semi trailer will fit in. It carries 75 troops, uses 2,000 litres of fuel per hour. 580 km range, cost $30,000 per hour to rent. Forty metres long, eight blades each about two feet wide, probably bigger than ANYTHING seen at the Dease Lake Airport, including the terminal building. WOW!’


Thanks for the fine pictures, Harry.


Speaking about Galore Lake, a recent BBC mystery show featured Honor Blackman,  AKA Pussy Galore, and one of the first Bond Girls, still looking great.


Stephen Dunne, a new reader and a volunteer with Friends of the Canadian War Museum, notes that our group of naval air enthusiasts ‘reflects the same age group as ourselves here at the Friends of C W M.’ We met at a War Museum book sale run by volunteers in an Ottawa mall. The sale was


‘.. a part of an ongoing project to get us out of the Museum and into the community.  [Last year] I set one up at the “Veterans Memorial Highland Games” in a small Ontario village called Spencerville, just north of Prescott on the St. Lawrence. It was a one-day event for us: we sold a fair amount of books, plus had a great mix of people come by and chat.’ 


Stephen coordinates book sales at the War Museum. I remember some good times in the Spencerville Royal Canadian Legion.


With respect to ‘Veterans’ Memorials’ such as highway 416 south from Ottawa, recently a part of Highway 401 running from Trenton, Ontario to Toronto, has been named ‘the Highway of Heroes.’ It derives the name, now official, from the occasions when bodies of Canadian Forces members who have died in Afghanistan [and possibly elsewhere] are brought home by air to Trenton, then travel west on Highway 401 to Toronto for autopsies. As they move down highway 401, they pass under several overpasses that are decorated with flags, signs, and other memorials, and are manned by silent citizens of all ages. In Ontario, we have noted a ‘veterans’ memorial’ highway in London, [formerly Airport Road, I believe] and a Veterans’ Drive in Stratford, running along the Avon River. The Royal Canadian Legion magazine also mentioned two similar names in Quebec. Have any of you in your own travels in Canada encountered similarly-named highways?


Fred Follow is a frequent contributor, as well as writing for the Naval Officers Association of Canada on naval affairs. He sometimes sends along anecdotes or short snappers that are very welcome. Here are a couple of examples:


 From a USAF manual: ‘It is generally inadvisable to eject directly over the area you just bombed’, and from advice given to RAF pilots, ‘When a prang seems inevitable, endeavour to strike the softest, cheapest object in the vicinity as slowly and gently as possible.’


Bob and Kit Geale keep in touch on a regular basis. In an e-mail last July, he wrote,


‘… the Fleet Air Arm Museum of Australia … was opened by the Chief of the Navy on 6 May [2007] and followed by a very successful Air Day on the base. The museum was taken over by the navy last September [2006] with a new staff of four public servants plus volunteers. I am now the Volunteer Historian for the museum but still busy with curatorial problems as our Curator is now on maternity leave so I doubt we will see her again until next year. Actually she is excellent and also is not slow in spending money to get things done. Over the years the administration of the museum has kept a tight reign on the monies. So much that the main lights were hardly used but now the whole museum is much lighter and brighter. Display cases are very modern and would suit all up-market jewellery shops.


By the way, one of the volunteers is an ex-Shearwater hand, ex-Leading Seaman Ron Hunt, who joined the RAN in the seventies, and rose to be a Warrant Officer.


Dave Wall one of the pilots in HS 50 spent a day at the museum and enjoyed it. There is a restaurant on the second floor and you can also view the airfield RANAS Nowra with the 817 Squadron Sea King hangar nearby followed by the Squirrel line at 733 Squadron. Out of sight is the hangar for 816 and their Seahawk helos who embark on the frigates. Next to them is for 806 grounded with contractual and maintenance problems for their Sea Sprites. The RAN soon get another four new aircraft as trainer, Augusta 109E’s while in a couple of years the Sea Kings are due to be replaced  by the NMH90’s, now under construction up in Queensland. Also two new amphibians, …and they should be laid down shortly.


And that’s pretty well all that’s happening down here other than floods, torrential rains, high winds, bloody cold and the drought.’


Thanks Bob. Ted Davis was down there early in 2008 to visit a friend, but missed you. He did say that the museum was every bit as good as you say it is. Those of us who were there earlier all enjoyed it. Good on ya.


The term ‘skylarking’ may have come from the games played by young sailors and midshipmen during the days of sail, when the youths would display their skills while playing in the highest rigging.


Somewhere in my dusty collection of cassettes is one entitled ‘The Crepitating Contest’, supposedly a BBC [or CBC] ‘underground’ recording of the World’s Championship  farting match. The tape was played from time to time in Maggie and Bonnie, but its real origin is unknown. One version was set in Maple Leaf Gardens. We did some strange things in those days. Trix Geary forwarded an similar excerpt from Mike Crosley’s book, ‘They Gave Me a Seafire’.


‘The domestic arrangements … left something to be desired.  We were beset with failures in heating, fuel supply, and transport.  However, with a diet of baked beans and watery beer we could repair to the squadron dispersal, shut the doors and windows and build up a nice fug with the coal-burning stoves.


Most of the squadron had read the famous inscription on a Northern Ireland tomb stone. This read, 


Where e’er you be

Let your wind go free.

‘Twas holding it in

What kilt me.’


So the atmosphere could have grown a lettuce by lunchtime.  Something had to be done.  Dougy Yate devised a system of fines.  The price list was as follows:


8?? Squadron FART FUND Price List.


Type                Description                               Price    Remarks


Peep                Short, musical note                   1d        Very small effect


Fizzy foo          Intermittent                               Free     Highly entertaining


Dandy peep      Longer with a high                    2d        Small effect

                           Steady note


Fandauzer        More noise, deeper note           3d        Routine


Royal Fandauzer High pressure version             4d        Vulgar, inclined to overshoot

                                    of above, very



Scotch  Mist [1]     Silent                                  6d        Insidious


Harry Clearers [2]  Dreadful                             1/         [3] Mass evacuation of crew room




1. Duty boy to judge, if no one owns up.

2. Credit is allowed. Please enter fines against your name on list alongside.

3. Patrons are asked not to evacuate the crew room unnecessarily as it cools the  place down too much.’


Trix also remembered the memorial service that CNAG Tracker Chapter had held for Clunk Watson and A F Elton. Here’s an anecdote about Clunk and Bruce Dunfield from the early days of WW 2.


‘Bruce Dunfield and Clunk Watson were telling others that they had, that very day, come off a merchant ship in Liverpool. These two Canadians had stowed away at Halifax, NS, and made their passage free. They had been caught after a few hours on board, and had been put to work cleaning oil tanks and doing other dirty jobs. But directly the British crew had seen that they were genuine volunteers – and for the Fleet Air Arm at that – they had taken them to the Captain.  He “signed them on” as temporary crew and paid them the going rate for Able Seamen in the Merchant Service. This was slightly more than a lieutenant’s pay in the Royal Navy.’ 


Trix also noted that [several] Canadian  pilots from HMS ‘Implacable’, from ‘the “forgotten” British Pacific Fleet’, were now dead: Bill Losee, Nevill [Monk]Geary, Paul Stock, John Boak, Glen Bedore, and Clunk Watson, all from the Toronto-Ottawa Area.’ She shares her copy of this newsletter with several other friends in her building, mostly non-air-types,  Although she says she’s not a computer specialist, she did a great job with the material she sent. Thanks again.


Sid Gould is a long time friend of naval aviation, starting when he was a Radar Plotter, and continuing to his appointment as Commanding Officer of HMCS Beacon Hill, the last Prestonian frigate. He was involved with helicopter control in its early stages. Sid served in HMCS ‘Terra Nova’ while it was commanded successively by both Chris Smith and later JB Young, with Jack Steele as XO, as well as readers Dudley Allan [EO] and Bruce Cormack [SO], and yours truly. Sid’s career was extremely varied: wartime RN, RCN, Master Mariner, Missions to Seafarers, magician, British ‘Bobby’. He retired from the Canadian Forces in 1972. Since 2005, Sid has been a widower, his wife of 59 years, Esther, having died of pneumonia. He travels extensively in Canada and overseas. Sid mentioned the ‘nmi’ part of my e-mail address, standing for ‘no middle initial’ It is also used by the US author W.E.B. Griffen’s hero, ‘Jack [nmi] Stecker.’


From Calgary, Casey Hale wrote about an encounter with another aviation enthusiast.


‘…some years ago when I commanded [HMCS] TECUMSEH I had a call from a Western Airlines 707 pilot who had heard that we had a living and breathing Seafire at the base. It turned out, this fellow was Spitfire fanatic and asked to see the aircraft close up. I allowed as how I was free the following A.M. and picked him up at his hotel and took him to the base to see it [and the Fury] [we didn’t get the Banshee until the following year’].


This chap brought with him a briefcase full of articles and when I opened the cockpit [was a freezing January morning] and invited him to sit in the aircraft he was beside himself with joy – seemed somewhat strange in that, although he was captain of a four-engine airliner, he was thrilled with the pleasure in being able to sit in a real live fighter. We then retired to my cabin, and went through many articles on the Spit and derivatives – there are not many subjects that covered historical information of which he was unfamiliar. As an aside, he was not service trained and had worked his way up through the commercial system.


In return for the visit, he invited self and [two] daughters to visit a real-life passenger jet at Calgary International when he was due to return to San Francisco that afternoon. Took him up on his offer, and had a most enjoyable visit to a living and breathing airliner. I got a real chuckle in seeing my youngest daughter [about seven years of age] sitting in the captains seat – most overwhelmed.


On visiting San Francisco some months later, I had the opportunity of visiting him and his wife [a flight attendant with Western ] – had a great sea food dinner with them. Unfortunately I’ve lost them over time - Western disappeared off the scan some time ago.’


Casey recommends the website where there are many pictures of the fighters of VF 924, noting that ‘VC 924 was the squadron ID for the Calgary Naval Reserve Air Squadron – the adoption of the old squadron name for the fighters is my own doing.’


He also has a niece living in Churchill, Manitoba, one of Canada’s favourite eco-tourist sites. Deb and I had planned to visit there in 2007, but were precluded from doing so because of my jury commitment. Accommodation in Churchill is limited, but he recommends the website of Blue Sky Expeditions,‘’, owned in part by his niece. I understand that there is a B & B associated with the firm. Out of season she, Jenafor Olander, is an X-ray technician at the local hospital. Says Casey, ‘mention my name if you like.’


On the subject of foreign aircrew who flew with the RCN, another New Zealander who flew with us starting in 1955 is Jack Harrall.  Many of us would consider him to be a Scot, but he was born ‘down under’. Now retired and living in Scotland, he and Marjorie decided to stay in the UK after Jack retired from the RN, because his family members had all settled there. Wrote Jack,


‘On the NZ theme, we are members of the NZ Society of Scotland [about 80 strong], we have a service in Arbroath Cemetery on the nearest Sunday to Anzac Day, an important day in NZ and OZ, commemorating the huge losses at Gallipoli in WW 1. There are four NZ aircrew buried there and John Harvey from Kitchener Ont who was killed in a prang in a Fulmar in Fife on 11 December 42. We always included John in the service, the last of his relatives with whom we were in contact died last year.


‘Son Phillip who was about to be retired as Commander [O] RN was grabbed by the RAF and is now a Wing Commander; he heads up the Military Air Regulations Team that was formed after a Chinook crash that killed 29 Security people from Northern Ireland. The ‘buck’ was passed around so much that firm Tri-Service rules were demanded, and he has been the originator from the outset.


‘… We have kept in touch with most of the Shearwater crowd, especially on the west coast, and John [Phot] Turner keeps in touch with regular phone calls, and has already told us of friends passing. Corinne [Burns] sent us a letter about the visit to Shearwater, which caused me to swallow hard. Shirley Bays was in touch to say that she hoped to visit with friends “down the road”’. [Alas, Shirley, too, has passed away. Ed.]


Jack noted that they had celebrated their Diamond Wedding in October 2005, and that he had stopped flying as a pilot, but hoped to fly in a friend’s Tiger Moth. John also had served as ‘Hon Sec of the Tay Branch of the Aircrew Association, … due to my experience with the RCN, I am now the Hon VICE President.’


Jack’s advice to me was, ‘Keep taking those tablets, as the Lord said to Moses.’


Is there any reader from Jack’s generation who is still flying? Don Cash  was still piloting a few years ago.


Peter Holmes, one of the many former RCAF airmen who came to naval squadrons after unification of the armed forces, served at sea with HS 50, and was one of the first Air Navigators to be a detachment commander. He wrote from the Ottawa area where he has lived for several years.  Peter’s wife, Margaret, was a Manitoban of Icelandic descent, who had hoped to visit her homeland in 2006; however, she died of lung cancer in July that year. In August, Peter, his son Steven and his daughter Lorna,


 ‘…did go. We took some of her cremated remains with us.


‘I arrived in Iceland Friday 18th August, participated in the Reykjavik Marathon [a three km fun run] on the Saturday morning and fell injuring my left hip during the evening. A painful Sunday in our accommodation was followed by a visit to the hospital Monday, where they told me return to Canada ASAP as I needed surgery. Lorna and Steven stayed in Iceland and were taken to the family farm [no longer farmed] by relatives where they scattered some of Margaret’s ashes on the top of a hill and built a small cairn from lava rocks found in the area.’


Back in Canada, Peter had his third hip replacement, which involved spending his 72nd birthday in hospital. After his release, his entire family of four children and five grandchildren interred the rest of Margaret’s ashes in the National Military Cemetery of the Canadian Forces, part of Beechwood Cemetery in Ottawa.


 ‘After a short service, those who wished to, spoke a few words, then we all ate chocolate-chip cookies baked that morning using Margaret’s recipe, and toasted her with Bailey’s Irish Cream [her favourite libation.]’


Peter no longer referees soccer, but keeps busy as a volunteer worker for the Goulbourn Township Historical Society and Museum, as well as helping with his grandchildren in Stittsville. He may have a change of address soon, since he no longer needs a large house.  


Guy La Ramee was absent from the CNAG Reunion last fall, but in a Christmas card he said that he planned to be in the Richmond BC for the 2009 reunion.


‘J J’ Lehmann is enjoying life in suburban Ottawa, including outings with old friends including the Laquerres, Nelsons, Mitchells, and Porters, aka the ‘Ottawa Venture Rat Pack’. Since last report, John and Isabelle have travelled to Puerto Rico [‘my god, the place has changed’], Scotland, Cape Breton to golf with the Cantlies, and Kentville for the Annapolis Pub-and-Grub get-together, with Mike McCall and Andy Anderson, among others. While in NS, they were ‘royally hosted by Allison and Don Neilly.’ JJ says, ‘With Isabelle still working, I keep busy with a never-ending list of projects, e.g. the transformation of a double-space garage into a comfortable loft for visitors.’ They now are the owners of an ‘energetic, stubborn, loving seemingly untrainable “terrorist” Scottish Terrier. [Serene country life is dramatically changed].’ 


Phyllis Lowe has finally moved again, if only one block. Her previous apartment building was torn down for a new one, so she had to make another move. Fortunately she hasn’t lost much of her garden view or gardens, which keep her busy. Also keeping her busy are her grandchildren, many of whom are avid soccer football players. One, Faith Williams, was a Vancouver-area high-school all-star, and is now on a football scholarship at BC’s Capilano College, which is soon to be a university. Two others are in local football programmes. Phyl still drives, so she almost never misses a game. Her family members are mainly in Alberta and British Columbia, so is very busy with them, enjoying life in her 86th year. Phyl’s new address is in the annex under Lowe-Lewis.


‘I’m at an age when my back goes out more than I do.’ Phyllis Diller.


Last fall, Bud MacLean did something very unusual; an act of omission: he missed attending a CNAG Reunion. ‘Failed CNAG this year – Millie broke her ankle while we were out west. In September the saw-bones found a blood clot – so she is on a warfarin diet – otherwise all is well in LaLa land.’ [AKA Ottawa, ed.]


Like riding a bicycle. Roger MacEachern has lived in Sudbury for most of his life, excluding his RCN time as an OM and later a Midshipman on JAOBTC 7. As a youth he was a good hockey player. In late middle age he decided to ‘regain his youth’ by playing seniors hockey. He hadn’t skated for some years, but said to himself, ‘Skating is something you don’t forget. It’s like riding a bicycle.’ That opinion didn’t last long after a few encounters with the boards and the ice, but eventually he got his stride back. His ice hockey days are now behind him, replaced by fishing and boating on a lake near Sault Ste Marie.


Jake McLaughlin has published a book entitled ‘Grit, Guts and Grins: Anecdotes from Canada’s Naval Aviators.’ He describes the book as ‘…a collection of anecdotes from afloat, ashore, and airborne incidents during our time as a Carrier navy.’ Details are available in the annex in the books section. Jake wrote, ‘I’m still involving myself in my publishing business writing the occasional bit but leaving the heavy lifting to my son.’ Jake plans to donate some of the proceeds of his book to a charity that assists any child of deceased Canadian military personnel to get a post-secondary-school education. Sounds like a worthy cause to me, and a good reason to buy the book. Jake’s address is in the annex.


Mike McCall was able to contact Duke Muncaster last summer [2007] and sent the following news.


‘He has recently [June 2007] returned to his home after a year in an extended-care facility. Something to do with a fall and consequent impaired mobility. I don’t think he’ll be playing in the British Open in 2007 but he sounds chipper if a bit weak.’


Mike went on to tell us about his annual get together of naval officers.


‘We were due for a gathering in May [2007] but, well, I didn’t get around to doing anything about it. Our get-together last November in Kentville was too much of a success. The small group of anchor-clankers and zoomies that I got together over eight years has gradually mushroomed and is almost out of control. Thirty names were on my list of confirmed attendees and fifty guys turned up! Trouble was, the room I’d arranged was too small. They were all shoe-horned in, but the noise made conversation impossible. Nearly.’


While driving through rural NS, a hungry tourist said to his wife, ‘Honey, if you see a good place to east, sing out.’ A few km later she said “Look dear. There’s a sign saying lobster tail and beer.” He replied, “Let’s eat there. They’ve got three of my favourite things.”’


In a telephone call that I received from a reader the UK, it was mentioned that the Canadian Veterans’ Association is hoping to get enough Canadian veterans to march as a separate contingent in the Armistice Parade in London on Sunday 9 November 2008. In the last few years, the Canadians have been part of a miscellaneous group of vets, but Rolfe Monteith and others are hoping to put together a Canadian platoon. My understanding is that they needed to know by mid-May 2008 the numbers they could guarantee. Nevertheless, anyone interested in participating in 2008 or later should contact Rolfe at the address below. 


            Rolfe Monteith

            160 Lower Green Road

            Esher, SURREY, KT10 8HA

            United Kingdom

            Tel. 44 0 1372 210 573; Mobile 44 0 1372 200 525,

            Tel FAX. 44 0 793 155 8023

            E-mail –


[I believe that the zero after the country code, 44, is unnecessary if calling from Canada.]


Rolfe has several projects on the go. As well as the Whitehall march, he is associated with two historical projects in Canada – CNATH , the Canadian Naval Technical History Association, and CANDIB, the Canadian Naval Defence Industrial Base. Rolfe wrote,


‘Both arose in the 1990’s from CNATH , the Canadian Naval Air Technical History project, which was conceived in the 1980’s to capture the TECHNICAL side of Canadian naval aviation…The DND Directorate of History and Heritage are very supportive of the above projects, as a result of which I am in frequent contact with Mike Whitby, Mike being Pat’s son. Mike and his team of academics were here in the UK in May [2007] contributing to a one-day conference at the Royal United Services Institute. It was a most interesting occasion as the focus was on the RCN during and immediately following WW II – a period during which I served.’


Rolfe keeps in touch with some of the planners for the Canadian Navy Centennial in 2010, and hopes to be in Nova Scotia and Ottawa with ‘my Ann’, [Ann Discombe.- ed]. As a graduate of the former Imperial Defence College, Rolfe is invited to the college for a buffet and drinks. He note that, ‘For the last two years, I’ve been  the oldest attendee – say no more!’   [No more.]


Things you’d like to say at work.


‘I’ll try being nicer if you’ll try being smarter.’


‘I like you. You remind me of myself when I was young and stupid.’


The annual west coast Naval Aviators’ Mess Dinner, now is held in the Wardroom of CFB Esquimalt early in December. Details are available from George Plawski at:


            George Plawski

            401 – 2025 West 2nd Avenue

            Vancouver BC V6J 1J6

            Tel. 604.738.7543.


From Calgary, George Pumple sent several anecdotes from his very-interesting career in the RCAF, RCN, and CF. Some will be saved for later editions. Here’s a few. The first of two ‘tail tales’ is from his RCAF days, the second from his time as OIC Carrier Onboard Delivery [COD]Flight, bringing stores and mail from shore to HMCS ‘Bonaventure’.


THE HARVARD TAIL CHASE. 1953, #1 FTS Centralia. I am a flying instructor. A quiet day at “B” Flight as students are writing exams in ground school. “How about a little formation flying, Cy?” I ask a fellow instructor. “Sure”. In no time we are climbing out toward the west in close formation. I formate on him for a while. He formates on me awhile. Boring after a while. “OK Charlie, chase me!” and away I go. I’m in the lead, trying to shake him off my tail but he is very sharp. Altitude slides away. Soon we are “down among the trees”, rocketing around. What fun. Can’t go any lower so I give up and level off, gentle climb, game temporarily suspended.


My partner does not show up beside me. OH! OH!  I do a 180 and retrace my route. OH GOD! There he is, on the ground, CRASHED! He got caught in my slip stream! Make a low pass. He is alive! Thank God! I climb to get in radio contact with Centralia and report the accident. Continue circling, guide the meat wagon. Land beside the wreckage. He’ll live, they say, and indeed he does. I am presented with a severe reprimand for my sins, naughty boy! Tail-chasing is for fighter pilots!’  


THE STRIPE-TAILED COD CAPER.  It is another super day at NAS ISLA GRANDE, Puerto Rico. It’s a day off for the COD flight. What to do? I decided that we will make the COD stand out from other stoofs. Yes! When I was Resident Instructor VC 922 Naval Reserve Squadron, Pat Bay, BC, the Reserve aircraft all had striped rudders and they looked pretty smart to me. My crew and I will do the COD. We obtain multi cans of blue and white spray paint, and in almost no time we have done the deed. Boy, does she look good – different, you know?


‘I have a small guilt pang; should I have requested permission first? Nah, I decide; I am the OIC, my aircraft, right?


‘Next day we land on board the carrier. All is normal. No one seems to notice my handiwork. At the evening brief I am informed that the COD is to proceed to Shearwater in the morning. This we do. At VU-32 nothing is said, but overnight my painted [tainted?] rudder is replaced. I get the picture, finally.


‘Now, I think, wasn’t that just like our naval air? Some ass gets out of line – no problem, no explosions or confrontations. Just quietly correct the situation and get on with the program. Great bunch, naval air.’


Thanks, George, for the anecdotes. The rest will be held until for next year.


Weldy Paton wrote from his summer home in Washington state. He and Marg took a cruise in the eastern Mediterranean last year, enjoying especially Istanbul. At his winter home, he is an honorary member of ‘Dedaelian Association’ of retired US military pilots, who meet at Luke AFB. An F-22 test pilot told the group that his aircraft cruises at mach 2!  He hopes that the Canadian government chooses well for the upcoming fighter replacement..


Ted Richardson  called from Port Perry Ontario, in the Kawartha Lakes district east of Lake Simcoe. He had noted some comments from Mike Langman about flying in the desert in WW2. Ted have served as aircrew in 815 Squadron at RNAS Dekheila, close to Alexandria, Egypt in the summer of 1942 when there were many fluctuations in the front lines of the German and British forces in North Africa He remembered the Tobruk battles, and the worries in Alexandria of whether they too would be over run. Because of logistic problems, the Royal Marines were down to using rusty rifles of Italian origin against the Panzers. He noted that even rifle-fire could be dangerous to the Swordfish’s radial-engine. He also remembers Swordfish patrols to the front, and the rush to the bar after the patrols ended. Later Ted also served in RNAS Fayid on attachment with the USAAC.


Andy Rioux is still enjoying the good life and warm weather in Guatemala. He e-mailed,


‘ [The newsletter] was received and read, last Friday, with the greatest of pleasure, many sections re-read. As an expatriate for the last 20 years or so, I find it most enlightening especially about old friends, naval aviators, and …Shearwater. I have the latest copy of the Museum’s, well done, really is a heart breaker, but at least naval air still has a foothold. My “senora” really enjoyed your “dientes” [“teeth” – ed] joke. Thanks to whoever is taking care of old naval aviators who have not reached that point yet.’


Here’s another quickie, attributed to Michael Ford, automobile manufacturer. ‘Don’t worry about avoiding temptation – as you grow older, it avoids you.’ [From The Book of Senior Moments, by S Klein.]


Dennis Shaw wrote to comment on something in last year’s newsletter: 1771 Squadron’s being the first British aircraft to bomb mainland Japan. Dennis had been a member of the squadron then in HMS ‘Implacable’, but was aware of the historical significance.


‘… our CO was LCdr MacWhirter who I had sailed with previously in HMS “Kenya” prior to joining HMS “Implacable”. Our first CO LCdr “Ginger” Ellis was killed while flying a Firefly… he was involved in some testing which concerned the reconfiguration of the Firefly’s wing tips. He was a fine officer who seemed to an unbelievable pull at the Admiralty, much to the squadron’s advantage.


Dennis recalled Rod Bays’ speech at a CNAG Reunion in Ottawa,


‘in which he told us all that it was time for us to tell each other know how much we meant to each other. Incidentally, it was the best speech I’ve heard at a reunion. Rod will always epitomized the term an “officer and a gentleman.”’


Most of those who heard Rod’s speech would agree with Denny’s comments on both the speech and Rod being a gentleman.


Russ Spiller wrote from New Zealand where they also had had a naval air reunion. The youngest of the attendees was 85. Russ feels lucky to live in a country that seems to be having only minor problems with global warming, noting that the Dutch had had many years of experience with their dikes and the rising and falling of the seas. He also noted with respect to the RAN, FAA, that the RAN had only started their own Fleet Air Arm in 1945, when it included many experienced airmen from New Zealand.


He mentioned that his great grand daughter was employed by the modern Sea World aquarium in Napier, and had been granted privileges to swim with the dolphins in a California Sea World while she and Perry, Russ’s great grandson, were touring the west coast of North America. He also reminisced about visiting the Caribbean islands and the Canal Zone, including an US island, probably Culebra, that had been used as a gunnery range by the USN. He was also surprised that Canada still had two flyable Swordfish aircraft. One is in the Shearwater Aviation Museum, and the other with Vintage Wings in Quebec. The SAM aircraft hasn’t flown for some time. He noted that he had been drawn to naval aviation while watching movies in the 1930s, especially one with Stearman trainers; but he never imagined the great changes in the field in the last few decades. On the current state of the RNZN, Russ noted that they had decided to buy trawler ships for coastal protection, plus Command-and-Control ships with enough carrying capacity to take troops where needed, be it peacekeeping or combat.


On a personal note, Russ and Corinne are reducing their travel due to the effects of old age. Corinne had already had cataracts removed, and Russ finds travel tiring.


At a presentation on aging, I learned that the most common complaint of the elderly was loss of the ability to travel outside their homes.


Jerry Watson called from B C for a long chat last July. We talked about many old friends, and covered lots of subjects. In an e-mail a few days later, Jerry wrote about,


‘…one of the highlights of my life. In 1989, I decided that it was time to quit work, completely. On the day, employees at Transport Canada Vancouver arranged a limo to take me to a local downtown hotel. In a large room, all my employees from Licensing, and Air Carrier Operations, which I had run for several years, plus other Transport Canada friends had gathered to wish me well. I was overwhelmed, plied with booze, given some hugs [not from the guys, though!] It was fantastic. Bob McNish and Bill Paterson, who had also migrated like me to MOT were there.


‘However, a highlight of the evening was when a non-member of the transport group came from the back of the room, with a double rum and coke in hand, to mark the occasion. It was our Jim Burns, who had somehow learned of the event.


‘I still marvel at the friendships, and camaraderie that we enjoy through our association with naval aviation.”


Jerry also mentioned a way he had found to make someone younger, in this case Jackie, his wife. She was in hospital for an undisclosed reason, when he looked at her wristband to note that it said she was born several years earlier than he thought she was. ‘They corrected it, and she is a youngster once more.’ To answer your question, Jerry , I was born in 1934. Can you have that changed to about 1943? I still want my senior citizens’ benefits.


Cards, emails, notes, telephone calls and brief letters etc were received from Charles Birch, Tino Cotaras, John and Lillian Eden, Ed Hallett, Mike Langman, Guy LaRamee, Hugh and Margaret  Laughland, Rodger MacEachern, Bob McNish, Sherry Richardson, Joe Sosnkowski, Iveagh Schaus, Don Sheppard, Ed Smith, George and Gayle Stephen, Geoff Stevenson, and Bruce Vibert.





N.B. To avoid duplication, all book reviews/recommendations are now consolidated in the section noted as special interest to FAA members in Canada.


Naval Air Personnel Data Base. The data base is up and running, with John Eden receiving new data every day. At present it is available only on the CNAG web site []. The SAM web site [] now has a link to the CNAG web site. Amendments, additions, etc should be sent ONLY to John at:

                        303 - 56 Tripp Blvd

                        Trenton ON  K8V 5V1

                        Tel: 613.394.0316



The data base is intended as an historical document to be retained in the SAM library for posterity. This personnel data base has no connection to the SAM Foundation web site listing, which is a directory of surviving air personnel.


Latest developments in Shearwater. An article entitled ‘Ceremony marks wing change’ by Chris Lambie in the Halifax Mail-Star, 28 June 2007, noted the change of command for 12 Wing, Colonel Alan Blair turning over the wing to Colonel Bruce Ploughman.


Colonel Blair said, ‘…I leave with an enormous sense of satisfaction. Satisfaction that the promises made to a young second-lieutenant 27 years ago are finally coming true: 12 Wing and Shearwater are on the threshold of a new era.’


The ‘new era’ is the Sea King replacement, which in 1980 the then-Base Commander told the young Second-Lieutenant Blair would be in service within three years. Ironically, the introduction of the replacements aircraft, the Cyclone, has been delayed yet again since Colonel Blair’s turnover.


According to the transit newspaper ‘24’, 28 November 2007, Toronto version, in an article ‘150 years of helicopters’ the first helicopter was flown in 1907 by Paul Cornu of France.  It rose to 30 centimetres, and stayed aloft for 20 seconds. The article states that the H-31 Sea King first flew in 1961, and ‘the Search and Rescue veteran is still going strong in the US and other navies… Marine One [is] the official transport of the US President.’


The old ‘D’ Hangar, home to many readers, built to last 1,000 years, has alas been torn down. In its place there is currently under construction a new hangar/technical complex for the new Cyclone helos. Apparently D hangar would not be integrated into the new plan.  As well, old runways 11/29 are now 10/28 because of the change in magnetic variation. The magnetic pole is moving relatively quickly these days, and is no longer in the Northwest Territories.


[As any aside, Toronto’s waterfront boasts a cruise ship called the Matthew Flinders. Flinders was an early deviant. More accurately, he discovered deviation: at least magnetic deviation. He was an explorer and surveyor who worked in the south seas in the years following Cook.]


The former Chezzetcook weapons range was given another clean-up in the summer of 2007, removing rocket heads, bombs, and other things left over from 30 years of usage by Shearwater-based aircraft. No doubt many of you had some interesting experiences while ‘attacking’ the place. If so, please share them with the rest of us.


Last February a Sea King was ‘stuck in muck’ in a frozen bog on Pennant Island off Terence Bay. The crew were practising landings when the right landing gear went through the frozen bog. The Crew Commander chose to finish the landing and shut down the rotor in case there was any damage. A repair party was sent out by another helo, and they jacked the aircraft level to check for damage. By the next day, the aircraft  was able to return to the base. [From an article by Chris Lambie, Halifax Chronicle Herald, 2 February 2008.]


2010. The Centennial of the Navy. From CNAG Sea King’s spring newsletter, originally from Peter Milsom, edited for brevity.


            ‘There will be major events in Halifax, in Victoria and in Ottawa. There are all    manner of events and special releases in the form of coins, stamps, etc, and three       big national events [fleet reviews etc.]. The main emphasis should be on local            events, [including] collaborative partnerships with local reserve units, naval         associations, and with community groups and  businesses. Funding assistance will        be available only through naval units [reserve or regular].


‘As an example, the Ottawa Naval Centennial Committee has membership from HMCS ‘Carleton’, HMCS ‘Ottawa’, the UNTD, CNAG, Venture, the Ottawa Branch of the NOAC, the local Navy League of Canada, the Old Comrades Association, and the Naval Association. The committee has formal terms of reference with a mission and clear objectives. The meetings address a range of ideas from memorials       to the famous naval Gun Run, Sunset ceremonies etc. It is all about setting up a collaboration with broad representation of interested parties, setting out activities, and action plan for funding to make it happen. The really important message is that you have to start now: 2010 is less than  three years away!’


For details, see the website at:




Wear red on Friday. Many veterans’ organizations are promoting the wearing of red on Fridays to show support for our troops in Afghanistan and elsewhere.


THE FLEET.[By Bob Willson and National Defence Pubic Affairs, as published in the NOAC Toronto Branch’s newsletter Bumph, August 2007.]


‘To support arctic sovereignty the navy will acquire six to eight Arctic/Ocean patrol Ships [A/OPS] at a cost of $3.1 billion with an additional $4.3. billion for operations and maintenance over the life span of the ships. The ships must be able to operate independently and effectively in Canada’s Exclusive Economic Zone [EEZ] including the Canadian Arctic, the Grand Banks … and the Northwest Coast of the Queen Charlotte Islands. They must also be able to navigate in the St Lawrence River year-round and berth in Quebec City. The vessels will likely be approximately 100 metres, 3,000 tonnes, and must be able to operate in medium first-year ice … not to provide icebreaking services… They will have gun armament, and may be designed to operate an on-board helicopter, as well as house one flying crew and one maintenance crew… Since the end of the Cold War, the role of the Halifax Class [frigates] has changed. Current and evolving threats are faster, stealthier, more manoeuvrable, and are moving from open ocean areas to the littoral environment. This poses challenges to sensors and weapons systems due to higher traffic density and proximity to shore-based threats. In addition, ships now face new threats such as terrorist attacks.


‘The Halifax Class Modernization and Fleet Life Extension [HCM/FELEX] project will manage both the modernizations of the combat systems and a planned mid-life ship refit program to ensure that the frigates remain effective to the projected end of their service life.


 ‘… Planning, preparation and coordination of the $3.1 billion modernization began in 2005. Modernization and refit of the frigates will begin in 2010, with the final ship being completed in 2017.’


Thanks, Bob. As with all plans, this one will change. National Defence Public Affairs and DND websites will have more current information.


The situation with the four submarines is also uncertain. The navy has been unable to match the torpedoes to the boats, so none will be able to fire their torpedoes until 2009. One submarine may be used for spare parts, and the refits seem to go on forever. The problems seem endless, and there are reports that the repairs are eating up most of the navy’s maintenance budget. Discussions are going on at very high levels within the federal government, and scrapping all the subs is one of the options.


The Buffalo situation is similar to that of the submarines. There was a Canadian Press article by Murray Webster 22 October 2007 saying that the CF needed spare parts for the Buffalo aircraft, which are stationed mainly on the west coast, to keep them running past their retirement date in 2015. The replacement for the aircraft has been knocked down the priority list for defence spending recently. A possible source for spare parts is the Brazilian air force’s fleet, which is the only other air force flying Buffalos of that variant. Another source speculated that  this plan, if there is a plan, might have as many problems as the current submarines situation.


For those naval airmen who have VP connexions, the government announced that only ten of the Auroras would be upgraded rather than the 18 in the original refit plan. The announcement was made after the government stood down for the 2007 Christmas recess. Supposedly, ‘Money should be used to equip the forces with modern aircraft. The 10 upgraded Auroras are expected to last until 2020. [From an article by Stephen Maher, Ottawa Bureau, Halifax Star, 19 December 2008.]


Maritime Patrol Crew Memorial. [From an article by Paul Pickrem in the Halifax Chronicle-Herald 7 October 2007.]


In Greenwood, NS, the names of 25 MP crew killed while performing their duties were added to a book of remembrance that contains the names of 1,800 aircrew from 14 countries who have died on patrol since 1947. The names of the USN crewmen were read aloud by Master Chief Herb Parsons, USN, during a ceremony organized by ‘VP International, a worldwide volunteer organization dedicated to researching and commemorating the deaths of crews of fixed-wing land-based maritime patrol aircraft employed in intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance operations.’ Among the names in the book are those of 73 Canadians, ‘Cold War Warriors … who never went to war.’ The international president is Major Al Harvey, a Canadian  air force pilot. He noted that the names of an RAF crew who were killed while flying over Afghanistan were added to the book in 2006. A vigil was held at the monument in 14 Wing, CFB Greenwood.


CNAG Reunion 2007 – Halifax, 5-7 October.  The reunion was held in the Marriot Halifax Waterfront Hotel, with an exceptionally large turnout. The dual theme was the fiftieth anniversaries of the arrival of HMCS ‘Bonaventure’, and of the Shearwater Flyers’ national football championship. Dick Pepper did a fine job as MC for the dinner and ball. Among the 430 attending, I noted Alan Brown, Len and Dorothy Cook, Len Cooper, Paul Fleming, Bob Ferguson, Ed Hallett, Fred Hawrysh, Ed and Betty Janusas, Ray Kneebone, John Mazmanian, John Searle, Peter Speirs, Jim Stegen, George Troughton, Una Walton, George and Hattie West, and Gordon Moyer, who was a great choice for CNAGER of the year! Kay and Tom Copeland, and Gord Edwards, were also seen in the area.


The 2008 reunion will be held in the Richmond Inn, Richmond BC, tel. 800 663 2878, rate $115 double or single, 10-12 October, the Thanksgiving long weekend. Registration will cost $120.00. For more info contact Roger Rioux, Reunion Chair, Unit 4B -46355 Brooks Ave, Chilliwack BC V2P 7S8, email –


The 2009 reunion will be in Trenton, Ontario.


Booms go Bust. Haligonians and those of us who attended the 2007 CNAG Reunion may have noted a boom around the warships in the harbour, a deterrent to any small craft who might approach the ships. Remember the USS Cole that was attacked by terrorists several years ago. The booms have since been removed because cracks were developing in the metal links connecting the booms. [From an article by Chris Lambie in the Halifax Chronicle-Herald 23 January 2008.]


CF Comes to the Aid of Halifax Hospitals. [From an article by Marilla Stephenson, the Halifax Chronicle Herald, 17 November 2007]. An agreement has been reached between Capital Health in Halifax and the Stadacona Hospital to use operating rooms in the former RCNH ‘in an effort to pare down the surgical wait lists.’ The wait-list problem


 ‘is particularly severe for orthopaedic surgery patients who often suffer a significantly diminished quality of life – usually exacerbated by chronic pain – while awaiting treatment… there are 5,000 patients waiting for surgery at the Queen Elizabeth II Health Science in Halifax.’


Some of you may remember that CFB Cold Lake made an arrangement for a CF doctor to work as a general surgeon, dividing his time between the Base and the town.


A surprising naval aviation connection. This came to me by e-mail, but the original source is unclear. It believe that it was from Ken Eliason.


‘Here is a little trivia to file away or ignore. In 1974 when I was on exchange with the USN, I was on an A-4 engineering course in Kingsville, Texas. While having breakfast on Day 1, a USN Commander came over to our table and introduced himself. He said “My name is John McCain and I had the pleasure of going through flight training with three Canadian officers.” He wondered if I knew them: Larry Washbrook, George Plawski, Charlie Poirier. That was the start of a social and professional relationship over the next three years. We were both based at Cecil Field, Florida; Commander McCain was in VA 174, and I was in VS 28. It is interesting where his career path has taken and where it may take him. Senator McCain always said how much he admired the professionalism of the Canadian military and the resolve of the Canadian people. You just never know who you will meet in the journey of life.’


The Toronto Aerospace Museum [TAM].Among the naval airmen who are members are John Bailey, Ted Davis, Phil Foulds, Hugh Washington, George West, and myself. The museum can be contacted at;


            Toronto Aerospace Museum, 65 Carl Hall Road

            Toronto ON, M3K 2E1,

            Tel. 416.638.6078, Email – TAM@BELLNET.CA.


Nova Scotia International Air Show. Because of work on the runways at Stanfield International last year, the air show was not held in 2007. It is scheduled to return

7-8 September 2008. For current information, see the website at


CONGRATULATIONS AND BEST WISHES TO Gerry and Elizabeth Maloney for their 50th Wedding Anniversary on 2 November 2007, to Gord Moyer as CNAGER of the Year for 2007, and to Kay Collacutt for being appointed Editor of the SAMF Newsletter. Her first one was great!


News of special interest to FLEET AIR ARM readers in Canada


[Mainly from the FAA Officers’ Association ‘News Sheet’ edited by John Shears, September 2007 and January and April 2008 editions.  NB. The list of events is NOT complete, and the listing of deaths does not contain all FAA personnel who died during the period.]


Fly Navy 100 [FN 100]. The Fleet Air Arm is planning for its upcoming Centennial celebrations, with some details already available. The Centennial acknowledges the arrival of the first naval aircraft to be taken on strength by the Royal Navy. It can be seen as the beginning of naval aviation in Europe. Meetings are scheduled throughout 2008, and a website may be available soon. The chairman of the committee is:                     


            Rear Admiral Terry Loughran CB

            Chairman, Fly Navy Heritage

            Tel/FAX 01935 824298

            [M] 07801 199633

            E-mail .


It is expected that promotional flyers, car stickers, and lapel badges will be available soon, as well as some items of clothing. Presentations will be made for schools, colleges, and other interested groups. Following is a tentative list of scheduled events, updated to 31 May 2008. More current details are available from the office at Yeovilton, telephone 44 01935 456530.


A Centenary Dinner for all ranks as a closing event, hopefully in Greenwich in the fall, not to interfere with Taranto Night.


A permanent Memorial at the National Arboretum, in conjunction with the FAAOA.


Old Stringbag Beer and possibly two other beer projects.


A Garden Party for all ranks at a very prestigious London location.


An open service at St Paul’s Cathedral with a Marine Band in attendance.


Hospitality at the Army v Navy Rugby in conjunction with the FAA FGA, with tickets for all who wish to partake.


Mass March and lead at Remembrance Parade, arranging with the Royal British Legion for a prime position for FAA heritage organizations. Possibly in conjunction with a short act of remembrance at the FAA Memorial, especially for those who cannot stand for long periods.


Freedom of a City still under negotiations by civic authorities so no city name can be announced.


Weymouth Veterans March to acknowledge the first launch of an aircraft from a ship underway [Hibernia, 2 May 1912].


Canadian and Commonwealth Involvement. I have sent the organizers a list of possibilities for media who might be interested in receiving press releases. The only event I am aware of comes from a Nova Scotia theatre group called Wartime Heritage Association. Their 2008/2009 theatre production is called ‘Echoes of the Forties – Songs and Stories of a Wartime Generation’, and it will be played in various places in the Atlantic Provinces and in England. Their website is – They can be contacted via Vice President Glen Gaudet, Wartime Heritage Association, 220 – 1991 Brunswick St, Halifax NS B3J 2G9. The contributions of Commonwealth personnel to the heritage of the FAA is acknowledged, and Commonwealth organizations are kept in touch every step of the way. French and US organizations are also being informed


Any reader wishing more details can contact me at any of the address at the beginning this newsletter. I would appreciate hearing from any readers who knows of any events in their area.


Other Upcoming FAA events in 2008, with contacts.


30 August – FAA Squadron BBQ at Baynards Park Estate – contact Michael RYAN, email, tel. 01935 812470.


5-7 September – Guernsey Int’l Air Rally –contact Colin FERBRACHE, email   , tel. 01481 701011.


20 September – 14th Carrier Air Gp Ass’n [804 and 812 Squadrons] Reunion at Royal             Leamington spa. Contact Ken LAMBERT, tel. 01733 234655, email      


15 October – FAA Squadron visit AAIB Farnborough – contact  Philip TAYLOR, email, tel. 07802 212244.


2009 FAA Reunions. 30th Anniversary of 94 Flight, Royal Navy. Contacts Merv and Sue Green, 8 Hazel Drive, Ferndown, Dorset, BH22 9SW, email, tel. HOME 01202 861397, MOBILE 07834 496965. Contact them if you are interested or know anyone who might be.


Toronto FOTM Meetings. The meetings now gather at the Toronto Aerospace Museum at 65 Carl Hall Rd, Toronto, at noon on the first Wednesday of the month. The contact in Toronto is John Bailey at 416.755.7628 or contact me at the address on page 1of this letter. The time previously posted in News Sheet is incorrect.


Maurice Ayling wrote about his time in Corsairs in 1843 Squadron


‘There were many RN squadrons formed in the USA, we at Brunswick, Maine. As far as I know … we were the only one to be seen off from Brunswick by the UK Ambassador to the USA, the Lord Halifax. He visited the air station at Brunswick a day or so before we left, and addressed us, wishing us well, informing us that, although he was the official Ambassador to the USA, we were all ambassadors for our nation wherever we went. As a great majority of the squadron personnel were conscripts, this remark was later the subject of much sarcastic humour. However, the epithet stuck, and all our sports teams were known as the Ambassadors. Just why we were singled out for the honour … has never been apparent to me. … I doubt if it was because we had a New Zealander as a CO and a Canadian as a Senior Pilot.’


845 NAS Commando Helicopter Squadron. One of the longest-serving units in Iraq comes home. The Sea King squadron landed in Iraq 20 March 2003 from HMS Ocean to form part of the first wave of the land offensive into Iraq –the raid on the Al Faw peninsula. The squadron returned to the UK 23 November 2007. During those three and a half years, they formed part of the largest helicopter-borne assault since the Suez Crisis, inserting Royal Marines and other combat troops into southern Iraq. As the first enemy positions were taken, the squadron moved forward providing battlefield support all the way to Baghdad. They soon settled into Basra International Airport for the duration of the deployment, except for a brief return to the UK in 2003. They returned in 2004 for the reconstruction of post war Iraq, moving troops and supplies around southern Iraq. They were the only medium lift UK maritime helicopter in the theatre, working frequently with Coalition ships. They also provided medical casualty evacuation on 30 minutes notice. Over the duration of the deployment, the squadron flew 20,000 hours. Some of the 185 squadron members spent more than a year in the theatre. 845 Squadron was due to moved to Afghanistan this spring.


The RN’s New Fleet Air Arm Military Aviation Academy is Launched. [From an article by Ivor Milne]. The Academy was formed in July 2007 to get flying training validated as a degree course. Aviators can now combine their flying training and experiences with formal university courses to get a degree in Military Aviation Studies. This is done in conjunction with the Open University Validation Service, which maintains that a higher-level skill and its application of knowledge has academic quality. With this ability to grant degrees, the FAA can now compete with universities to recruit the best-qualified students.  


Books of interest [FAA and Canadian]


Adlam, Henry ‘Hank’, ‘On and Off the Flight Deck’, Pen and Sword Books Ltd 2007. 237 pages. ISBN 978 1 84415 6290, price GBP 19.99. ‘This superb book is thoroughly recommended.’  


Doust, Michael. ‘Buccaneer S1’, Adhocpublications  2007, 104 pages. ISBH 978 1 946958 62 7, GBP 19.95. ‘The author and the publisher are to be congratulated on a worthy addition to the aviation library’.


Franks, Richard A, Sea Vixen. DeHavilland’s Ultimate Fighter Aircraft. Dalrymple & Verdun Publishing 2006. 112 pages. ISBN 1-905414 04 8. Price GBP 16.95. ‘All in all this is a great book for the technical historian … it is the shortened version of the Train

Spotters Guide to the Sea Vixen.’


Klein, Shelley; ‘The Book of Senior Moments’ Michael O’Mara Books Ltd, 2006, London, England., GBP 9.99.Wit and wisdom for all seniors


Martin, Patrick; ‘Royal Canadian Navy, Aircraft Finish and Markings, 1947 – 1968’, 2007, Patrick Martin, 20354 50th Ave, Langley BC, V3A 5P5, or available through the SAM Museum at C$64 plus S & H.. ‘The definitive book on the subject.’ It is a companion volume to the previously published books “RCAF Aircraft Finish and markings 1947-1968” and “Canadian Military Aircraft, Finish and markings, 1968-2004.”’


McLaughlin, Jake; ‘Grit, Guts and Grins – anecdotes from Canada’s naval aviators’, 96 pages, 2007, available from The Canada Company Scholarship Fund, c/o The Royal Regiment of Canada’, Fort York Armoury, 660 Fleet Street West, Toronto, ON,  

M5V 1A9, price C$20, or USD 25. 1A9. A well-illustrated book containing stories from several naval aviators [full disclosure - including myself] as well as explanatory pieces and reminiscences by the editor, who is also a retired naval officer. Proceeds from the book will be donated to a scholarship fund for the children of Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan.


Wakeham, Geoff. ‘RNAS Culdrose 1947 – 2007’. Tempus Publishing Ltd 2007. 160 pages. ISBN 978 0 7524 4381 2. GBP 12.99. ‘Thoroughly recommended and a snip at GBP 12.99’.


Recently deceased FAA members or associates. For other passings, please see the RCN/CF/Canadian list of ‘Gone but not forgotten’ on page 31 of this newsletter.


John Ashton, Rob’t Baird RCN/CF, Francis Barring, Mike Barry [in Toronto],], Doug ‘Bats’ Battison, Raymond Bellamy, John Branson, Stanley Brilliant, Michael de Bromhead, Ivan Brown, W A. ‘Bill’ Brown, A F ‘Sam’ Burroughs, John Carey, John Carter. Roland G Clarke, Henry Clendenning, Barry Codrington, David Crabtree, Peter Cross, George Davies, Robt A D Douglas, Neville Duke [RAF], I J ‘John Ellin, Glan’ Evans, Michael Fancourt, George Fenner, Cecil ‘Fairy’ Filmer, John Flint, Donald G Frampton, A Harry Fryer, Cecil Gohightly ,VADM Sir Roy Halliday, John Harvey, Wm Hawley, Dr Dudley Heath MD, John Hewer [NOT the RCN pilot],Douglas Hill RNZN, Michael Hill, Bill Hodgson, Paul Houseden, Chas Jagger, C M Jesse, Edward Key, T G ‘Tom’ Kingham, Paul Kingston, Kenneth Kirk, Philip Long, Frank Low, Derek ‘Pug’ Mather, John Morgan, M K Morris, John ‘Lofty’ Nash, Alan Newson, A.K. ‘Archy’ Ng, Bernard ‘Slug’ Notley, Rob’t Northard, Herbert Pethick, Roy Porchmouth RCN, Peter Pratt, Kenneth Rawlinson, C David Roberts, John Rodwell, M C Spillman, J R ‘Bunny’ Steel, John H C Sykes, J C Thompson, John D C Thompson, Wm Threlfall, R S Toms, Leigh Upton, Dennis White, and David Wright.


News for Former CNAG Tracker Members


Jack Marsden died in January after a long illness. After a brief ceremony similar to that used by the US forces, a colour guard of Jack and Marion’s friends presented her with a White Ensign that had covered the coffin. Deb and I attended the visitation but were unable to attend the funeral. Deb had a cast on her right foot, and I had to drive her to a medical appointment. Among those present were Anna Johnston, who had been injured in an auto accident in Sarnia a few days earlier.Una Walton lost her brother at about the same time, so she was on the East Coast for his funeral.


John and Mary Bailey are still very active volunteers with the Toronto Aerospace Museum and the Fleet Air Arm Officers’ Association, also in Toronto. George West recently joined the Corps of Commissionaires in Toronto, but continues to volunteer at TAM. Bob Cornish continues to write letters to editors of the of the Toronto Star. I also hear from Fred Rol and Bob Campbell frequently. In May a group of former chapter members met at TAM and later lunched together in the Downsview area.


Terminology corner. Unless otherwise noted, aviation terms are from ‘Words on the Wing’ by Tom Langeste, and naval terms are from ‘Origins of Sea Terms’ by John G Rogers.


‘Land of the Round Door Knobs’. Canada was ‘The land of the round door knobs’ for Canada’s NATO contingent in Germany; later the US contingents used the term to refer to the USA. The term refers to the fact that German doors had no door knobs; instead, they used latches which could be lifted by an elbow to open a door. Consequently, Canada [or the USA] was ‘the land of the round door knobs.’ [I confirmed this with an old friend who flew Sabres and CF 104s while in the RCAF.]


‘Lay eggs’. During WW1, the Royal Naval Air Service and the Royal Flying Corps used this term to mean laying sea mines.


‘Lutine Bell. A bell mounted at Lloyd’s headquarters in London, rung as notice of an important announcement, It was the ship’s bell of  H.M.S. Lutine which sank off the Dutch coast in a storm in 1799.’


‘A cheese of wads’. According to Patrick O’Brian’s Aubrey-and-Maturin sea novel ‘Clarissa Oakes’, page 221, in nineteenth century naval gunnery, the wads that were used with the round shot for the muzzle-loading guns were stored in a cylindrical container that looked like a ‘tall thin Stilton’ cheese. Clarissa Oakes used a cheese of wads as a footstool.


Questions for 2008


1.         What former naval airman has the current Ontario license plate VS 880?


2.         What naval airman has the nickname ‘OXO’?  


3.         What WW2 fighter had a crew of three?          


4.         Where and what is VF 924?


Trivia question. In what recent Vancouver-based Sci-Fi television series was the expletive ‘frack’ or its variations used frequently? Hint. It also had many pilots who were usually not airmen.


Thanks to the those who helped with the newsletter, especially my two proofreaders. Any errors that you find are mine. To all of you I send my best wishes, and my thanks for your support. May the next twelve months be happy, healthy, and prosperous; and may you live long.


Yours aye,








For the most up to date and accurate information, especially prices, dates and times, you should check direct with the persons or organizations shown. I have no financial interest in any of the organizations mentioned, but I support organizations that are friendly to our naval air community.


Veterans Affairs News. Last year, an appeal court decided that the Department of Veterans Affairs had not been following the spirit and letter of the legislation which states that the Department should be lenient in accepting a claimant’s word where no paper evidence exists. This means that some claimants who were turned down previously MAY now be granted benefits; however, they need to re-apply through their Pension Advocates in the Royal Canadian Legion or the Department of Pension Advocates. If they do, they should cite the following judgement: Canadian [Attorney General] v Nelson, 2007 FCE Can II dated 2007-05025]. P.S. VAC now has an ombudsman who might also be helpful.


The Canadian Naval Memorial Trust [HMCS Sackville.] To get information, or to make a contribution, visit the Trust’s website at If you wish to use mail, the address is Canadian Naval Memorial Trust, HMCS Sackville, PO Box 99000 station Forces, Halifax, NS, B3K 5X5. It is OUR heritage.


The Royal Canadian Naval Benevolent Fund. The purpose of this fund is ‘to relieve distress and promote well-being of members of the naval forces of Canada and their dependants.’ There is also an education bursary fund for dependants and grandchildren, the CPO Andrew McCain Jack Bursary program. Information is available at:


RCN Benevolent Fund

            PO Box 505, Station B,         

            Ottawa ON K1P 5P6

            Tel. 613.996.5087 – toll free 888.557.8777

            E-mail :

            Web site :


S2F Tracker Reunion. Gordon Bonnel, mentioned earlier in this newsletter, has arranged a reunion of all pilots who flew the Tracker aircraft, including those from Canada and Australia. It will be in Las Vegas, in October, 2008.[Another reunion COULD be held in 2009 in the Shearwater area, possibly in conjunction with the Venture reunion there]. Gord heads an organization called RAFS, short for ‘real aviators flew stoofs’, ‘stoofs’ being a nickname for the S2F and its variants.


The website to see who’s attending, RAFS Roster, new links etc [he’s adding things almost daily] is:


His email is –


Answers to the 2008 questions.


1.         Ted Davis. Does any other reader have or know about an interesting personalized plate?


2          Bob Bovill.


3.         The P-61 Black Widow, according to the History Television’s series ‘Dog fights’, 12 February 2008. The aircraft had a pilot, a radar operator, and an air gunner


4.         The name given to the three former RCN fighters in HMCS TECUMSEH’S

Naval Museum in Calgary. So named by Casey Hale, q. v.


Trivia question. The series was ‘Battlestar Galactica’, an award-winning re-make of the original series that starred Lorne Green. The pilots [women, men and Cylons] rarely flew through the air, doing almost all of their flying in outer space. 


Generous financial assistance or assistance in kind was received from - anonymous,  Alan Brown, Paul Brunelle, Chick Coffen, Bruce Cormack, Ted Davis, Frank Dowdall, Trix Geary, Bud MacLean, Rolfe Monteith, Weldy Paton,  Sherry Richardson, Dennis Shaw, John Searle, and Whitey Williams. To anyone who I forgot to mention, please accept my apologies.


GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTENGord Balfour, John Bluett, Mrs J Bond, Bill Bovey, Ross Campbell [former RCN WW2, later a Canadian Ambassador in Algeria, Korea, etc, and a Staff College lecturer], Don Cooper [FAA], George Dainard, Beatrice Dewar [wife of Sandy], Norm Donaldson, Ferguson Finley, Kenneth Fultz [Atlantic University sports, football official], Donald ‘Doc’ Gamblin, John Garde [WW2 FAA],Gloria Hawthorne [in 2006, wife of Al], Bradley Henderson, Margaret Holmes [wife of Peter], Bob Jackes, Creighton ‘Johno’ Johnston, Gloria Laming [wife of Carl], Jack Marsden, Roy Portchmouth, Madeline [Fitzgerald] Power [wife of Kevin], Shirley Reaume [wife of Wayne], Anton ‘Doc’ Schellinck, George Stephen [JAOBTC 7/Obs 9], George Stone, and Frank Stymest [in December 2005].


[See also the FAA list earlier in this letter.]


Address changes or corrections, including e-mails* and new readers**.


*Peter Baldwin, e-mail –


Gordon Bonnel, [ref - RAFS] e-mail – RAFS_Stoof@sbcglobalnet.


Charles and Grace Birch, 6-144  4thth Ave East, Qualicum Beach. BC, V9K 1N6.


*Art Bray, e-mail --


Glenn Brown, 57 Riverside Dr., Kingston ON K7L 4V1, e-mail –   


Peggy Buchanan, 1400 View Crescent, #401, Delta BC, V4L 1Z1, 604 943 1595.


Bruce Cormack, [corrected details] - e-mail –, tel.

            613 224 7312.


Don Crowe, 12960 20th Ave, Surrey BC V4A 1Y9, e-mail –


Fred D’Amico, 78 Evercreek Bluffs Rd SW, Calgary AB T2Y 4P2,

            tel. 403 286 1155.


*John and Lillian Eden – email –


*Ken Eliason, e-mail  -


May Fearon, #235 Churchill Manor, 5815 – 34 Avenue, Edmonton AB T6L 7B8.


*Ralph Fisher, new e-mail - <>.


*Jack Harrall, e-mail - - [‘dot after k of jack, and #1        after second L of harrall.]


Al Jasper, 1808 Pine St, Lynden WA USA 98264, e-mail –


*Alma [Doupe] Jensen, e-mail -


Phyllis Lowe-Lewis, 121 – 2151 Gordon Ave, West Vancouver, BC, V7V 1W1.


Jake McLaughlin, 4394 Ash Crescent, Burlington, ON, L7L 1H6,

            e-mail -


Pat and Duke Muncaster, tel. 604 538 9468.


*Stu Russell, e-mail –


Tom Stauffer, 3727 Pinecrest Rd, Black Creek, BC, V9J 1E6, e-mail –

   [there’s an underline after ‘tom.’]


Gayle Stephen, [George’s widow] PO Box 1345, Pincher Creek AB T0K 1W0.


Eleanor [Purcell] Stymest,  [Frank’s widow]  tel. 506 529 3495.


E. Vishek, 64-850 Parklands Dr, Victoria BC, V9A 7L9, 250.598.9794


NB.  E-mail addresses may have changed because users change plans for better rates or better service.